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 		  Posted: Jun 13, 2005 - 06:01            New!   Link to Thread
Liquid's DVD creation does not allow copy protection. I believe Ulead DVD Workshop 2 does allow you to copy protect DVDs.

As for partitioning drives you can create the DVD normally without burning. This will create the files you need for the DVD. Then create another folder with the PC files. You will need some other program to burn the files to DVD - like Nero.

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 		  Posted: Jun 13, 2005 - 04:43   
I'm a Studio 9 user, and I'm on the Studio 9 forum. But i'm getting into some new areas concerning some proejcts I'm might be working on and I have a few questions to see if Liquid could answers these.

1) can you copy protect your produciton with liquid?
2) Can you "partition" your DVD with some part movie, and another part PC. So you can play the movie in a DVD player, but if you put the DVD disk in a PC, more content is accesable. Can Liquid do this?
 

 

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DonSimpson

  Posted: May 31, 2004 - 05:48   
John, could you be more specific please? I am very interested in the method you have mentioned. I suspect you are saying, select video_ts as the output settings to export to DVD from PLE. Then access the saved information to another computer/program to burn the DVD???? If this is so, it would release the machine with LE on it to do more work???

I have pondered trying to encorporate a USB drive to save the information to. As I have another machine that has Nero 6 on it. Using the other machine to actually build the dvd and burn it. But I really do not know where to start. Would you be so kind as to direct me?????

I have a network in my home, but I don't think trying to save the multigig files across the network would be efficient. However, I believe if I save the Video_Ts folders to a USB 80gig drive that I have would work. Taking that to another machine and then useing nero to do the time-intensive job of encoding the image and then burning the dvd. Am I even close????

Thanks in advance for any of your time you decide to contribute.

Respectfully,

Don Simpson
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  Posted: May 12, 2004 - 13:54    
Winfryd - I presume you mean that dealing with image files doesn't expose the underlying structure of the DVD to the user, so they can't mess it up. That's a fair point and will be a major concern to some people.

However it's not the only (or necessarily best) way to handle this process.

I'll stick to dealing with the Video_ts folder - it's quick, it doesn't need any extra software, and its more flexible (e.g. I could burn one copy of a DVD with a particular set of accompanying datafiles then burn another copy without those files and with a different disc name).

regards, John
Roland Achini

 		  Posted: May 12, 2004 - 06:05      
Thank you all for your instant help and detailed instructions. I followed John's recommendations and now am able to make multiple copies from a Master DVD.

Thank you Winfryd for your warnings. Having followed John's procedure sucessfully, I wonder if still something could go wrong using my Video_ts folder?

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 osted: May 12, 2004 - 02:19      
NO NO NO, that's not the way to make multiple copies. Too many things can go wrong.

If you have a good working DVD, make an IMAGE of it like I said in a previous post. If you choose IMAGE recorder as the recorder in NERO you can produce a perfect image. To check the image you can use Nero ImageDrive or go to http://www.daemon-tools.cc and download daemontools, wich can open more types of images then Nero. Now it's just like you have an extra (software)DVD drive in wich you can find the video_ts folder and it's files.

You will not find a video_ts on your harddrive when making an image, you find the image wich has a name like 'dvd.nrg' if made by nero and offcourse the name you gave it yourself.

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  Posted: May 12, 2004 - 00:01      
Roland,

I can confirm also backyard's method works as I do exactly that to copy my "productions" from DVD. It comes in very handy if you get a request for a copy 10 months or so down the line. I also use the same method for multiple copies.
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  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 20:39  
John

"The software industry is constantly striving to produce fool-proof software....evolution is constantly striving to produce better fools...so far evolution is winning."

...another one I had not heard. Thanks
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  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 17:14               
Roland
I've just done a test - this is the method I followed:

Put the Liquid edition produced DVD into drive. It will open with a windows option box or will autoplay if you've got winDVD or similar installed.

Stop it playing and OPEN it using right click > open

You should see 2 folders - the Video_ts and the Audio_ts (the audio_ts folder may be missing)

You can ignore the audio_ts. Copy the Video_ts folder to a folder on your hard drive. This Video_ts folder is now your master or archive folder and you can copy from it as many times as you want.

Open Nero and follow the previous instructions on how to burn the files from the Video_ts folder using Nero's DVD-video template. (you can also rename the disc or add other files at this point)

I didn't actually burn the files in this test but everything worked as described up to that point so the whole process should work ok.

regards, John
Roland Achini

T		  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 12:47      
Thank you, John.
When I capture the image from the source DVD, I would like to save that image before I burn the copy. However this seems to be impossible. I cannot find a folder "Video_ts".

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Winfryd
 		  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 12:20   
Best way is making an image of the good working DVD. With nero you do this by choosing the image writer as your recorder. With the made .nrg image you can make as many copy's you want.

@ backyard: dvddecrypter also can burn plane .img files made by LE, no decrypting will take place in that procedure.
backyard


  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 08:05    
Roland
I've not done this before but if it's an unprotected DVD (as produced by Edition) then I think you just need to open the DVD and copy the Video_ts folder to somewhere on your Hard drive, then go through the Nero procedure I listed to burn it back to a disc.

If you leave the Video_ts on your harddrive then you can just burn it again whenever you need. Please note you can't rename the Video_ts folder so you should store it in a folder with a meaningful name.

If the disc is copy protected then I think DVDdecrypter can extract the necessary files. Although I've downloaded it I've not got round to using it yet but I'm sure a decrypter user can confirm if this is possible.

regards, John
Roland Achini

 		  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 05:30     
John,

could you also explain how you COPY an existing DVD with Nero and at the same time SAVE the necessarty files to make more copies later?

Thank you,
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  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 05:19   
Thanks John for your comprehensive detail on this one.

Yes, I had tried that but when I got the error message I aborted and went back to the Video_TS only option, seems to be OK on most DVD set-top players.

Nero is by far quicker and as you can rename and re-use as required the best tool (for me anyway), thanks again for your time.
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  Posted: May 11, 2004 - 02:23   
Alan
You probably know most of this but I'll just describe the method I'm using

In Nero, click "DVD-video" icon in left pane.

ISO tab will open, I just leave all these settings at Nero's default

click new, the left pane will open with pre-made (empty) AUDIO_TS and (red)VIDEO_TS folders

Browse to where the Video_ts folder compiled by Edition resides.

Open it, select all the files and drag them over to the red VIDEO_TS folder. A message pops up saying certain files are not allowed to go into this folder ("anchor", "volume" etc.) Click ok and the files will be transferred without the ones that shouldn't be there.

That's it really, at this point you could just go to burn. I usually edit the disc name first and add any other files I want (placed outside of the VIDEO_TS folder).

I've tried deleting the AUDIO_TS folder, and just leaving it there empty. The resultant DVD worked fine in both cases. I read that the AUDIO_TS folder doesn't need to be on the DVD.

I think I've been lucky with DVD authoring in that it's almost always worked for me - even letting Edition do the burn as well. I did have one project that consistently refused to compile (turned out to have a corrupt render file, so went back to project and deleted all renders and let it make afresh, which cured it).

I wanted to investigate another burning method because I had a client who wanted to have the DVD show up on the desktop with their name on it, and who wanted to include some other datafiles on the disc, and I've been able to do it.

hope this is useful.

BTW the tests I did used a project about 20 mins long with 17 menus (one of them a multi-page). The set up I used was Fujitsu laptop (P4 2.8, 1G ram), XP pro, edition 5.5 with latest dvd patch, external Lacie firewire drive, external usb2 box with pioneer A104, no-brand DVD-Rs)

regards, John
dv8digitalkid

  Posted: May 10, 2004 - 22:33        
To all, please note that there is an update for DVD compatability on Editions support site - below. This may solve your problem. I've wasted a ton of DVDs learning how to make a DVD in Edition without problems. There doesn't seem to be a problem with the authoring, but rather with the burning. Hopefully, the patch below takes care of the problems that you are having, and I was having. In case the patch doesn't fix all of your problems, below I have a long post I made to another location. Also note that you do not have to place a return to menu link at the end of your timeline as Edition will automatically do so.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/docsupport1.asp?division_id=8&langue_id=7&product_id=1475&product_name=Liquid%20Edition%20PRO&page_id=522

Be careful not to use the one for DVD500 - unless that's what you have!

Ok, for those of you that have had problems with DVD authoring and especially burning. I recently authored a DVD with Edition. Burned it directly to a DVD. The DVD on both a computer DVD player, with Power DVD, and my set top box played the DVD but ran into a number of problems including: incorrect navigation(did not match my preview) and stuttery playback for the first 15 seconds of each clip. I moved things around, tried DVD Image 1 and DVD Image 2, switched audio encoding from PCM to MPEG 2, and even re-authored the entire timeline. All with similar unuseable results. However, I did notice that using PowerDVD to play the rendered DVD with its menus worked perfectly. So, I decided that the problem wasn't with the authoring within Edition but rather with the actual burning within edition which could be sped up a bit. So, I used Nero Burning Rom to burn the DVD using the folder structure created by Edition(Nero burning Rom did not seem to allow me to burn the image file that Edition created - it wouldn't recognize it). Nero burned the disc - it worked perfectly on a computer DVD player, but would not even start up on my set-top box. So, then I tryed using Sonic RecordNow DX to burn the DVD with the .img file that Edition renders to the render directory of that sequences name(to be found on your media drive under the folder render and then the sequence name of your DVD author - unless you changed it, and the DVD worked perfectly in both the computer drive and in the set-top box. Sorry for the long email, but hopefully reading this will save you the 15 DVDs and 2 days that I lost. In conclusion, I think that there is something wrong with the burning utility within Edition. Have a good one.

http://estore.sonic.com/enu/recordnow/deluxe.asp?lang=enu

Here's a link to Record Now DX. Yes, it will burn the .img file. You can define where this file goes within the Edition DVD utility under the tab destination. Be sure to use DVD Image 1 or 2.

Again, I have not redone these tests with the new patch from Pinnacle, so all of this may be useless, but if you are still having problems after the patch, then maybe it is not so useless.

Thank you for your time,
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ALANmac

 		  Posted: May 10, 2004 - 21:40   
backyard,

"Nero's DVD-video template"
John, doing it this way do you burn both the Video_TS and the Audio_TS folders?

I have burned only the Video_TS folder contents up till now but not using the video template. I have 100% success on a Goodmans. Sony and Maxim set-top DVD's. However I could not get any DVD to play in a friends JVC player, he changed it for a new JVC and all DVD's worked 1st time.

I would love to be able to burn DVD's and sleep at night knowing they would work in all players, it does not do your professional reputation much good when they are returned.

ps - this is not just an Edition problem!!
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backyard

 		 Posted: May 10, 2004 - 15:23    
Wynfrid - I don't really have much idea what I am doing when it comes to DVD, but I can only report that I've been using the "rename to .iso and burn with Nero" method for several months now and I've never made a coaster (Nero5.5, no-brand DVD-Rs).

I recently started to use the "burning of the video_ts folder only" method as I wanted to give the discs a name, and include some other types of files on them. I have had problems with some of these and I'd assumed this was due to the presence of the other file types but your comments made me review what I was doing (so thanks for that) and I realised that I was stupidly using Nero's (default) DVD-rom template.

So I tried some discs using Nero's DVD-video template, transferring the necessary files from the edition compiled Video_ts folder. This is a little more complicated but has produced discs that have worked fine in all the players I've tried (Pioneer, Sony, Panasonic).

I've got nothing against dvddecrypter but for people who've got/know Nero I hope this helps. I wish something in this world of DVD authoring was fool-proof! It reminds me of the old saying:

The software industry is constantly striving to produce fool-proof software....evolution is constantly striving to produce better fools...so far evolution is winning.

regards, John
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  Posted: May 09, 2004 - 13:13      
How about Ulead's DVD Workshop 2?

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Winfryd

  Posted: May 09, 2004 - 13:04             
Backyard, the alternative you state is certainly not full-proof. To be read by most DVD players the first sector that is read must be in the right (DVD) format, if you don't set the right options you propably end up with a faulty DVD. With Nero6 I tried to burn the .img but to no avail, it came out as a coaster (DVD+R). Offcourse there are settings that work well in Nero but if you don't know what you are doing a program like dvddecrypter is full proof for no settings have to be made.
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  Posted: May 09, 2004 - 11:27       
Nero works well for me. One method is to rename the .img as a .iso file then use file>burn image.

Alternatively if you go into the destination folder you set when you compiled the DVD and open the folder named "DVD" you will find the "Video_ts" file - this is the only file you actually need on the DVD, so you can just use Nero to burn that. This method also has the advantage that you can give the disc a meaningful name.

regards, John
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 Posted: May 09, 2004 - 01:49         
try DVDdecrypter, it's free and burnes the pinnacle .img's very well. You don't have to set anything. Use img association set to dvd decryptor, right mouseclick on the img and open decryptor that way in the right modus.


http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
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